Seth only thru Jane

"That has been done before. All of this has been done before. Through many ages, in one way or another, I have spoken. (Humorously:) I never shut up. And others have spoken ... And there is always the difficulty in maintaining the integrity of the material and keeping it free of distortion... I have worked very hard to help Ruburt condition himself to provide for the material’s integrity and cut down on distortions (Smile:) I would be appalled at going through that all over again."

—Seth, The Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 454, December 7, 1968

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Here are eleven brief examples of Seth and Jane explaining clearly that Seth would never communicate thru anyone else—not via speaking, automatic writing, and so forth. 

Seth and Jane wanted to maintain the integrity and authenticity of the material--and didn't want a number of people claiming to speak or communicate FOR Seth--which wOULD water down his material—so he said he would only communicate thru Jane.

He also said that people WOULD use his name as a symbol for their own inner communication, but it would not be him. 

Here are 11 brief quotes on this topic. I’ve added the CAPS for emphasis only:

Seth (Session 876, from God of Jane): "A woman wrote that she was involved with. . . correspondences in which I was communicating with her, and she was certain that this would prove beyond a doubt my own independent nature, since I [would have given] messages to another medium besides Ruburt. The woman was quite convinced of that.

"Other people have written that I have given them such messages. Another woman dreamed of me, and had an experience in which a child was definitely healed. Now, I did not communicate with those women—but their belief in me helped each of them use certain abilities. One woman has done some writing—not very good—but still, those abilities came to the fore. The other woman was able to use her own healing abilities.

Jane (Ch..9, Seth Material): “Mrs. Brian had a terrific headache while reading the article (about Seth); suddenly she thought she felt Seth's presence. An inner voice, presumably Seth's, told her that she had been feeling sorry for herself that she must stop brooding over her health at once, get up, and go out for a walk. If so, she would improve at once....

“We asked Seth about the incident. In this case, he said, Mrs. Brian had used him as a symbol of her inner self, or supraconsciousness, to deliver help and healing influences as well as advice. The experience helped the woman to use her own abilities, and the idea of Seth enabled her to activate her own healing forces.”

Jane (Seth Material; Ch.9): "Several people have told me that Seth communicated with them through automatic writing, but Seth denies any such contacts, saying that his communications will be limited to his work with me, in order that the INTEGRITY of the Seth Material be preserved."

Seth (ESP Class, 4-17-73): “If you are quick, and if you are intuitive, and if you are courageous, and if some evening you listen to my voice in the proper mood, then you can follow yourself to the heart of yourself, using the voice as a road or vehicle.”


Seth (Session 463): It is quite natural that others...who are experimenting should go through a stage in which it seems to them they are receiving information from me. Suggestion operates, and any trance deeper than ordinary for them can be interpreted in these terms. He (Ruburt) should understand this, and explain it simply to his students.”


Seth (ESP Class, 12-19-72): “Seth Speaks should be called You Speak and You Speak and You Speak. So listen to yourselves.

Jane (from Dreams, Evolution, & Value Fulfillment--Essay 5, 4-18-82): “And--very troublesome to me--came the repeated news that various people were ‘speaking for Seth’ publicly, and charging hefty-enough fees.  I felt that my work was being CONTAMINATED, and more, I was annoyed and disappointed by those readers who could apparently be so taken in by those other Seths. As he has said so many times, SETH SPEAKS ONLY THROUGH ME, TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE MATERIAL. AND IT IS INDEED THAT CONTRACT BETWEEN HIM AND ME THAT ALWAYS ASSURES YOU OF THE AUTHENTICITY OF SETH'S WORK...”

Seth (Session 454): “My friend here, Ruburt, is my mouth, and speaks for me...I WILL NEVER SPEAK THROUGH ANYONE OTHER THAN RUBURT, simply because there must never be any doubt of the origin of the Seth material.”

Seth (Session 463): "Now, when you see what Ruburt can do occasionally, and the troubles I can have with distortion, then you can be sure that I WOULD NOT DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE CHANCES FOR DISTORTION BY ATTEMPTING TO SPEAK THROUGH ANYONE ELSE.

Seth (Session 510): "MY COMMUNICATIONS WILL COME EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH (JANE) AT ALL TIMES, to protect the integrity of the material...”

Seth (Session 15): "Joseph, your part in these sessions is extremely important. Without your participation they could not have begun, nor could they continue. Because of our past alliances the three of us are closely bound together. However, I need the two of you in order to come through at all.

Barrie Comments: Regarding the ongoing long list of people who made and make their similar assertions over the decades:

Each person who claims and has claimed to communicate for Seth is SURE of it and EACH has their own personal sure-proof explanation as to why it is true for them. 

Note: If this was the case, then it would be “true” that Seth will even just communicate  via anyone and everyone who comes along and says so—despite all he said in the issue. 

Of course, it so happens that when Seth was around, he ”shot down” each of these folks—saying, at best, that they were using his name as a symbol for their own inner communication.

It is also quite noteworthy to note that BEFORE Jane’s books with Seth—no one was claiming the name “Seth” for their inner guy.


Be honest and aware,

Barrie Gellis

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