Seth: I am not talking about problems and challenges being the same thing. I am speaking of initiative...

 "I am not telling you you can have a heaven upon earth. For one thing, there is no such thing as heaven, and for another, if there were you would be bored. You need a challenge. Any flower uses it. And I am not talking about problems and challenges being the same thing. I am speaking of initiative, and desire and accomplishment. The need to use your abilities. They need to be used as a stem needs to grow. That is what I am speaking of."

—Seth, TPS5, Deleted Session, December 2, 1978