Seth: My ego has not been annihilated through two thousand deaths!
From Ron Card on Facebook 2/16/18: now, as far as I know and can tell, this is a never-before-published, that is, no book reference, Jane ESP Class Session labeled an "UN-Session," actually one of only a hand-full of sessions that Jane held in their new "Hill House" when they moved, in 1975, from their apartment at 458 W. Water Street to Pinnacle Road, and at that time, decided to suspend the ESP classes because their priorities changed and they wanted to devote more time to the Seth sessions and book publishing and their art talents and Jane's writing talents, so, however, Jane and Rob temporarily relented and held what they termed, un-sessions. Plus they had a whole large roomy house to play in, with a studio for Rob and a writing space for Jane, among things.
Note from Deb: I looked up the date of the transcript -- 11/29/75 -- on Mary Dillman's list of Seth Sessions, and it looks like the only place this has been published was in the Austin Seth Center Newsletter (1:12) and Pathway to the Stars, whatever that is. But not in any of the books.
Here's the text:
Jane had again invited a few of the "regular" members of the ESP class to her living room. There were two guests present. Seth's entry into the conversation was quite unexpected. As no notes were being taken, no prelude to his remarks can be given. Seth came through with very little warning, and remarked:
"That is hardly an impossible statement! Some of you will still have children, and you will bear, into the world you know, the fruit of your seed. And, that seed is born of your dreams, and of your thoughts, and of your wishes. And so, in your terms, you will project into the future, the dreams that you can dream now, and the reality that you know how.
"A good teacher (and I am a good teacher), knows when to withdraw, - and when to let the students work for themselves! A good teacher is not smothering. And so, in that respect, I have withdrawn.
"I have told you, so far, time and endless time again, that you create your own reality. I have said precious little, really, about how to change it. I have given you hints and clues.
"But the first part of the lesson is completed. At least, those of you who have been here, believe that you form your own reality. You may dislike it, or you may yell, or shout, or curse, or scream, but, you more or less accept that statement!
"But, there are other methods, and other ways, and other "journeys" that you must embark upon, and when we are ready, that will be "Lesson Two." Lesson One is a preliminary!
"But in the most intimate of terms, physically and biologically, the future exists. Your children, unborn as yet, will taste of the reality that you know, and you project that into worlds that you will not know, in your terms, for they will live, say, beyond your time.
"There are messages that travel cell to cell. There are also messages that travel through the psyche that can take a thousand years. You are listening to some of these messages!
Some of them come from portions of your own reality. You must not try to slay the conscious self, as you understand it, but to expand its capacities. You must not try to slay the ego, but to understand that the ego is a term that you have used. You must not try to deny your individuality, but to understand what individuality is, and means, and use it.
"If anyone here thinks it is a virtuous advantage to forget desire; to learn a distaste for life; to become detached; then look you to those who have lost desire - who have become detached, and who cry alarmed in that agony for a sense of meaning and sensual validity.
"Those who say, "There is no meaning to my life - where shall I look?", have become detached from the fountainhead of being - the biological and spiritual fountainhead of being.
Note from Deb: I looked up the date of the transcript -- 11/29/75 -- on Mary Dillman's list of Seth Sessions, and it looks like the only place this has been published was in the Austin Seth Center Newsletter (1:12) and Pathway to the Stars, whatever that is. But not in any of the books.
Here's the text:
An Un-class Session, Saturday, November 29, 1975
Jane had again invited a few of the "regular" members of the ESP class to her living room. There were two guests present. Seth's entry into the conversation was quite unexpected. As no notes were being taken, no prelude to his remarks can be given. Seth came through with very little warning, and remarked:
"That is hardly an impossible statement! Some of you will still have children, and you will bear, into the world you know, the fruit of your seed. And, that seed is born of your dreams, and of your thoughts, and of your wishes. And so, in your terms, you will project into the future, the dreams that you can dream now, and the reality that you know how.
"A good teacher (and I am a good teacher), knows when to withdraw, - and when to let the students work for themselves! A good teacher is not smothering. And so, in that respect, I have withdrawn.
"I have told you, so far, time and endless time again, that you create your own reality. I have said precious little, really, about how to change it. I have given you hints and clues.
"But the first part of the lesson is completed. At least, those of you who have been here, believe that you form your own reality. You may dislike it, or you may yell, or shout, or curse, or scream, but, you more or less accept that statement!
"But, there are other methods, and other ways, and other "journeys" that you must embark upon, and when we are ready, that will be "Lesson Two." Lesson One is a preliminary!
"But in the most intimate of terms, physically and biologically, the future exists. Your children, unborn as yet, will taste of the reality that you know, and you project that into worlds that you will not know, in your terms, for they will live, say, beyond your time.
"There are messages that travel cell to cell. There are also messages that travel through the psyche that can take a thousand years. You are listening to some of these messages!
Some of them come from portions of your own reality. You must not try to slay the conscious self, as you understand it, but to expand its capacities. You must not try to slay the ego, but to understand that the ego is a term that you have used. You must not try to deny your individuality, but to understand what individuality is, and means, and use it.
"If anyone here thinks it is a virtuous advantage to forget desire; to learn a distaste for life; to become detached; then look you to those who have lost desire - who have become detached, and who cry alarmed in that agony for a sense of meaning and sensual validity.
"Those who say, "There is no meaning to my life - where shall I look?", have become detached from the fountainhead of being - the biological and spiritual fountainhead of being.
"The soul is not dead. It is not finished and done with, and beyond desire. It IS desire! It is vitality so strong that it gives birth to your being, and grows you from a dream to a physical reality. That is desire! [u/God[/u] is desire. A flower, or a dog, or a frog, is desire!
"Now, I return you to your selves, and some day may you have the grace to know your selves!"
Seth withdrew, and there was conversation in the room about what he had said. Seth returned to clarify his opening statements:
"I have told you how you created your reality, but I did not tell you how you could create another better one, except for the hints and clues! You are almost, but not quite, ready for the "take-off," or the launching, or the beginning."
After another very short discussion of Seth's remarks, he returned:
"Now, I am not a shrinking violet! My ego has not been annihilated through two thousand deaths! Whenever you think you slay your ego, another one emerges triumphant.
"There is one reason that the tapes work. (Note: There had been discussion about tapes from earlier classes that have been reproduced and sold and/or distributed by persons unknown.) There is one reason that people listen to the tapes. The reason is this. An individual speaks! Not a bland non-entity; not a spiritual head; not a bundle of goodies; but a person, as you know people.
"I have lived as you live. I speak of the survival of the personality - personality - distinctness! Not annihilated in the blindness of a Nirvanna; not squashed in a benevolent god-head, but the essence of what I am survives; and is, and continues, and grows, as your essence survives and continues and grows. It is not lost in the blinding corridors of some god-hood's brain.
"God, in those terms, so loved individuals that he individualizes himself - or, to any - any - any femenists [sic] around, she individualizes herself!
"Your identity continues, as mine continues. I make no attempt to hide my characteristics. They were not buried before the time of Christ. They were not destroyed in my death in the seventh century. They were not annihilated in the 24th century of your existence and in your reckoning of time. They were not destroyed in any of my deaths, nor shall your identities be annihilated, or lost in a oneness that knows not desire, nor distinction, - and that is a strong part of my message!
"Your own creativity continues. You will change, as you have indeed changed, in your terms, in the past - as I have joyfully changed as hopefully my ignorance opens into some slight doors of wisdom.
"But those tapes show that the individual, as you think of the individual, triumphs, and is part of All That Is, and refreshes All That Is, but is not annihilated in that benign goodness.
"So, listening to my voice do you feel within yourselves the strength of your own individuality, for no seed of the smallest apple tree is lost, or looses [sic] its unique integrity, and the privacy of its being.
"Therefore, neither is that great integrity and privacy of your being ever scandalized, or broken apart, or shattered, for the God that created it loves it dearly, and in its uniqueness, that God feels its own being expanded and glorified - not in your annihilation, but in your triumphs does All That Is continue to form its realities.
"Now, sense within this voice, the vitality of your own being, and remember it to the marrow of your bones!"
"So, listening to my voice do you feel within yourselves the strength of your own individuality, for no seed of the smallest apple tree is lost, or looses [sic] its unique integrity, and the privacy of its being.
"Therefore, neither is that great integrity and privacy of your being ever scandalized, or broken apart, or shattered, for the God that created it loves it dearly, and in its uniqueness, that God feels its own being expanded and glorified - not in your annihilation, but in your triumphs does All That Is continue to form its realities.
"Now, sense within this voice, the vitality of your own being, and remember it to the marrow of your bones!"
Seth: You must not try to slay the conscious self, as you understand it, but {try} to expand its capacities. You must not try to slay the ego but {try} to understand that the ego is a term that you have used. You must not try to deny your individuality but {try} to understand what individuality is and means. And, use it.
If anyone here thinks it is a virtuous advantage to forget desire, to learn a distaste for life, to become detached, then look you to those who have lost desire, who have become detached, and who cry aloud in that agony for a sense of meaning and sensual validity. Those who say "There is no meaning to my life. Where shall I look?" have become detached from the fountainhead of being, the biological and spiritual fountainhead of being.
The soul is not dead. It is not finished and done with and beyond desire. It is desire! It is vitality so strong that it gives birth to your being and grows you from a dream to a physical reality. That is desire! God is desire! A flower, or a dog or a frog is desire!
I have told you how you created your reality. But, I did not tell you how you could create another better one, except for the hints and clues! You are almost (but not quite) ready for the "take-off" or the launching or the beginning.
Now, I am not a shrinking violet! My ego has not been annihilated through two thousand deaths! Whenever you think you slay your ego, another one emerges triumphant.
[Note: There had been discussion about tapes from earlier classes that have been reproduced and sold and/or distributed by persons unknown.]
There is one reason that the tapes work. There is one reason that people listen to the tapes. The reason is this: An individual speaks - not a bland non-entity, not a spiritual head, not a bundle of goodies, but a person, as you know people.
I have lived as you live. I speak of the survival of the personality, personality distinctness, not annihilated in the blindness of a Nirvana, not squashed in a benevolent god-head. But, the essence of what I am survives and is and continues and grows, as your essence survives and continues and grows. It is not lost in the blinding corridors of some godhood's brain.
God, in those terms, so loved individuals that he individualizes himself. Or, to any, any, any feminists around, she individualizes herself!
Your identity continues, as mine continues. I make no attempt to hide my characteristics. They were not buried before the time of Christ. They were not destroyed in my death in the seventh century. They were not annihilated in the 24th century of your existence and in your reckoning of time. They were not destroyed in any of my deaths. Nor shall your identities be annihilated or lost in a oneness that knows not desire nor distinction. And, that is a strong part of my message!
Your own creativity continues. You will change, as you have, indeed, changed (in your terms) in the past, as I have joyfully changed, as hopefully my ignorance opens into some slight doors of wisdom.
But, those tapes show that the individual, as you think of the individual, triumphs and is part of All-That-Is and refreshes All-That-Is but is not annihilated in that benign goodness.
So, listening to my voice, do you feel within yourselves the strength of your own individuality. For, no seed of the smallest apple tree is lost or loses its unique integrity and the privacy of its being.
Therefore, neither is that great integrity and privacy of your being ever scandalized or broken apart or shattered, for the God that created it loves it dearly. And in its uniqueness, that God feels its own being expanded and glorified - not in your annihilation, but in your triumphs does All That Is continue to form its realities.
Now, sense within this voice the vitality of your own being. And, remember it to the marrow of your bones!
November 29, 1975 (Unpublished ESP Class)
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