Ellen and men/women

 You've probably seen it yourself, Ellen has variously and repeatedly been told she talks too much, subtly, politely, bluntly and with naked rudeness.

She herself has referred to this at least once when she briefly related something that occurred outside of TAP where a person told her she wouldn't be good at organizing because she 'talks too much.'

So she has been repeatedly 'confronted' with this 'news' from various quarters and yet is unable to heed those words.

I don't see her as 'brave' with her 'chattering.' I see it more as something of a compulsion.

Concerning the woman at the end, I forget her name, who spoke about how hard women have it, being 'gaslighted' by men and on and on and on.

Of course, there has been horrible bad shit down thru the ages, I would never deny it, but the oppressions both genders are subject to are about as easily compared as comparing apples with oranges.

The women's movement and the woman last night have abundantly pointed out their oppressions.

Men, on the other hand, and it's a cultural thing, generally don't 'spout off' in the same manner in comparison. I guess to do so would appear 'weak.'

Women should have had the vote all along, of course, and the same for 18 year old men once subject to the military draft -- which is trafficking in men, by the way.

Women as property, who can defend it? But the male 'owners' suddenly became subproperty, for instance, when it was 'women and children first' on, say, a sinking ship.

I take it as an article of faith that, aside from the biological roles in terms of reproduction, men and women are otherwise interchangeable.

People are individuals, first of all, and there will be obvious differences between any two individuals of the same or different genders whether of temperament, interests, aptitudes, and so forth.

But cultures have long been in opposition to male/female interchangeableness with the age-old division of labor.

The division of labor, of course, extends into the household.

Working mothers bemoan they are saddled with their jobs and also doubly labor with household work, cooking, cleaning and so forth.

But household 'men's work' is not generally daily/ongoing; it tends to be intermittent.

When the vacuum cleaner broke, my mom expected dad to fix it.

When the sink plugged up, she didn't tackle that, dad did.

This list is enlightening

https://markmgiese.blogspot.com/2021/11/men-and-women-work-at-home.html

It was compiled by Warren Farrell who also wrote, among a number of books, the book 

Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap—and What Women Can Do About It,[5] where he documents 25 differences in men and women's work-life choices which, he argues, account for most or all of the pay gap more accurately than did claims of widespread discrimination against women. Common to each of men's choices was earning more money, while each of women's choices prioritized having a more-balanced [work/home] life.[citation needed] These 25 differences allowed Farrell to offer women 25 ways to higher pay—and accompany each with their possible trade-offs.[5] The trade-offs include working more hours and for more years; taking technical or more hazardous jobs; relocating overseas or traveling overnight [or commuting farther to work a better-paying job].[5] This led to considerable praise for Why Men Earn More as a career book for women....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Farrell

An unclaimed feminist victory is that, nowadays, women outnumber men at colleges and universities.

So I get pretty tired of litanies such as expressed by the woman at the end.

I am confident that I am far more equality-respecting than, say, Republican men.

Thanks for listening.

--Mark

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